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For a second I thought you meant she physically pushed him and the force sent him toppling into the pool and I was confused

Nah

It's just like the instinct where you believe you're being pushed so you follow through like it's pushing you? Sort of like when you're getting shoved in reality, you try to keep your balance by following the motion with your feet? I'm not sure how the body would move like a real push outside of instinctively following it to lower the force

3:30 AM

Because I've done something sort of like that playing VR where I got so immersed that I tried instinctively to follow through the punch to lower the force absorbed by my body even though there was no force, it was just instinct, is it the same thing but multiplied by a million due to tactile imposition?

pretty much, an imaginary force can still have a real reaction

Well like when you first practice tactile imposition you practice not putting your hand through your tulpa's hallucinated form, until you reach the point where your mind finds it taboo and prevents it by countering your movement

3:31 AM

Now imagine that form tackling you after training it

Okay yeah, I think I get it

The more I read about it, the more I'm beginning to think touch imposition is a bad idea

3:34 AM

actually, imposition, period

why would it be a bad thing?

I'm overly paranoid and carry too much firepower...I don't want my mind fucking with me, telling me something is real, and then I shoot it and it's not

3:35 AM

better I only percieve shit that's really there

someone's trigger happy huh

not really

3:36 AM

but like I said, I'm paranoid

The fed doesn't let schizophrenics own firearms

I know

You're fine pal

3:36 AM

Not gonna happen without either you being schizophrenic or being ridiculously irresponsible and trigger happy

...I'm still nervous

3:37 AM

I've seen shadows before that have scared me

3:37 AM

never drawn on one yet....

3:37 AM

but I don't want my mind making them more realistic

3:38 AM

once you've encountered a real sniper, your mind starts seeing shit that ain't really there, just to be overprotective

I've suppressed it very well tho and don't want to invite the paranoia back

uh huh

3:38 AM

Well, it's controlled hallucinations amigo

3:39 AM

Takes a fuckton of work to get to a point of them being involuntary or maybe just a schizoaffective disorder

Imposition is a controlled hallucination of your tulpa. If you begin hallucinating outside of that it's other issues most likely.

...how controlled is it?

Lets put it this way

You picture your tulpa and they control it

I mean if your mind gets scared, will it make shit more real?

If it's easy for you, see a doctor

it's completely controlled, of someone you should completely trust.

alright

That's literally schizophrenia if that happens

I see

3:40 AM

ok then I should be good

3:40 AM

right...?

Yes, it also takes a long time to get working well

3:42 AM

Like a year or more?

oh ok

3:42 AM

so in theory, could you stop at partial imposition?

3:42 AM

like have ikari be translucent?

3:43 AM

[why would you want that] I don't even really know

you should get in the habit of trusting her to begin with.

3:44 AM

Imposition is controlled hallucination. That's the entire point.

3:44 AM

There are no stories outside of creepypastas of it "going wrong".

what exactly is creepypasta?

just some scary stories

3:48 AM

completely fictional of course, despite them sometimes stating the contrary at the beginning

ok...I love Ikari very much but I don't entirely trust her

3:49 AM

kind of like you love a baby but don't trust it not to stick a fork in the outlet, so you get those little plastic plugs

3:49 AM

this is that

well she is still quite young, trust will develop over time

I agree, and I hope so

3:50 AM

right now she is a new playmate who I enjoy being with...but I want her to be more than a playmate before I start giving her control of my body (and deadly weapons) (edited)

3:50 AM

[hehe cmon]

You could start by thinking of her as more than a "playmate"

3:51 AM

You could try discussing things with her, giving her speech and interactions of substance rather than wonderland fantasy shit

I mean right now that's essentially what she is, somebody I talk to and hang with and such....

So why don't you shape her into someone whole, then?

and in the real world, tho I may enjoy such a person, I would not give them access to my body or weapons...why should she be any different, for the time being

By the time you were able to complete imposition you'd have been with her for long enough you would trust her

Also that

I'm talking about possession now (edited)

It ain't easy. I'm only at a point of light to moderate touch imposition after six months of work

[Overlord still can't fucking spell] (edited)

Possession takes some time to, and you can easily take back control

[case and point]

You seem to treat Ikari like she isn't a person

3:53 AM

Like she's a plaything or perhaps a child at best

OOF

It isn't that she's not a person

A tulpa is a person that needs the same sort of meaningful interaction anyone else does..

Tulpas are people

it's that she's somebody that I don't entirely understand

if you dont treat them like theyre a person you're irrefutably a shit host and a douchebag

Why? She's in your head, ain't she?

and I'm trying to be cautious so nobody gets hurt

3:54 AM

Mentally or otherwise

what danger

“and in the real world, tho I may enjoy such a person, I would not give them access to my body or weapons...why should she be any different, for the time being” Of course she’s different and she will be different. Nobody could understand you and your paranoia more than she would, if things go well. And she definitely wouldn’t want to do you any harm. I think your caution is limiting you, not helping you, at this stage.

is she gonna stab you or some shit?

If you don't know who she is, that just validates my suppositions

@Blitzeen I suppose that's true

You've all the time in the world to talk to someone who is in your own head

3:56 AM

You know how I bugged you earlier for saying you value your girlfriend more than her? That's because your girlfriend isn't there for you your entire life. Even if she is in a close relationship to your death, she will never be with you 24/7 as a tulpa is. She won't experience every joy, every sorrow, every hardship and every good time you do

3:57 AM

A companion in the absolute.

Unless they’re sleeping and you don’t have the heart to wake them up.

if you don't treat a tulpa as a person with the respect that they deserve you arent prepared to handle the responsibility.

3:57 AM

There's a way easier way to say it, I believe. If you're scared of your tulpa doing something, work on solving what's causing that fear instead of acting upon it.

3:57 AM

making a tulpa is a big commitment

3:57 AM

dont underestimate it

I know but my girlfriend also has a seperate body and can physically help me in ways Ikari can't

I don't think people nowadays really understand or care about the gravity of making one.

don't get me wrong, I love Ikari